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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-01
01:11 pm
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There is something that has me curious. I know many believe that sports are fixed. Now, personally I don't believe this, but this isn't my question. What I'm wondering is why do you folks who believe that they are fixed, wager on them anyways? And those that do, do you wager real money if you believe they are fixed?
Again, I'm not interested in a debate on whether sports are rigged or not, just why do people bet on anything where they think the integrity is in question.
This isn't for some college thesis or anything--I just truly don't get that concept.
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goravens2011
FSB Pro
2011-03-01
01:39 pm
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why do some believe that sports are fixed in the first place? if they were fixed why would underdogs win so often?
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BULLDOG62568
Hall-of-Fame 2
2011-03-01
03:23 pm
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If they are fixed, you still have a 50/50 chance of picking the winner.
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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-01
06:24 pm
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Is 50/50 good enough to bet one's money on?
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coorslight
Hall-of-Fame 2
2011-03-02
06:58 am
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for the most part i dont believe pro sports are fixed but at times im sceptical about nfl football
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FitzGrisly
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-02
07:48 am
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A smart bettor can improve his odds of winning to better than 50% by doing quality research with all available resources and understanding the nuances of home advantage, trends, line movement on betting volume and so forth. Sports wagering, within one's means, and according to his expertise, is also exhilarating at times. I would recommend a sound entertainment value versus cost principle, rather than some effort to win big.
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hotrodhundley
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-02
09:10 am
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Fitz you are into it way to much LOL.
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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-02
09:54 am
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Exactly FitzGrisly--those are the criteria that I try to employ. But that's the main reason that I asked the original question--wouldn't someone's alleged "fix" then negate these factors, leaving nothing more than just throwing a dart at the wall to pick a winner? I'm contstantly hearing people snivel about a game (seemingly the ones that they lose) being fixed, then those research tools you mention become a moot point. So you intelligent folks out there who claim a fix is in--why do you bet? And what is the criteria you use to pick?
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FitzGrisly
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-03
10:35 am
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I shall curb my enthusiasm. I was partially joking anyway. I'm more of a satirist than a gambler. As for fixes. Monitor opening lines and movement thereafter, plus volume of betting at major vegas books if you want to sniff out potential corruption. Also, look for point spreads that seem fishy, like a top ten college hoops team at home as a favorite of 7 or less over a nonconference opponent with a modest winning percentage. The road dog will cover this bet 2/3 of the time. Point shaving or crooked officiating? I doubt that, but you can find bargains when the line looks peculiar. Good luck.
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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-03
10:44 am
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Well, like I said, I don't believe our "major" sports in the United States are fixed (although I have to admit that the NBA has caused me some doubts over the years). But that's just my opinion; I could be wrong. It just seems rather asinine of the people who disagree to be on them anyways, but they haven't answered my question. It's certainly not going to keep me up at night--what one chooses to do with his own money is up to them.
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Octiger
Hall-of-Fame 2
2011-03-03
12:57 pm
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Maybe you ask the ones who whine about fixes why they never seem to know this before the game, only after they have bet the wrong side. The whiners are just that , like a guy I knew who always swore games were fixed when he lost, oh but when he won, he was a handicapping genius.
If I thought games were fixed, one, I wouldn't bet for reasons stated by others, but two, I would try to find out who was fixing what and get in on it, free money!
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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-03
01:10 pm
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@octiger--
"the ones who whine about fixes why they never seem to know this before the game, only after they have bet the wrong side. The whiners are just that , like a guy I knew who always swore games were fixed when he lost, oh but when he won, he was a handicapping genius."
Very well said. I've met many of those same people.
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uuuubstrds
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-03
06:22 pm
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im making a house of cards :3
HATERS.
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apkboston
Semi-Pro
2011-03-04
07:05 am
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not fixed, though there is a lot of incentive
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abelstar
FSB Pro
2011-03-04
10:56 am
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who really cares if its all fixed if you go deeper isnt the us government fixed? the higher gas prices over night? etc etc
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KidMichigan
Rookie
2011-03-05
09:17 am
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i think the fixing is only in play in 2 areas--pro wrestling and the NBA. As long as you feel confident the fix is in on your side--GO FOR IT! What makes it tough though is that the NBA doesn't care about the pointspread--just that their stars or marque teams are successful. I can't watch the stuff. Hook David Stern up to a lie detector and ask him some tough questions and I'll change my mind--IF he passes.
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mkls531
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-07
04:38 pm
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just always remember , the refs and players are human and you know that if you enjoy having action on a game imagine the rush of deciding the outcome .if you do not believe refs and players are also laying money on games you are crazy. just hope you are on the winning side because it is a coin flip or everyone could quit their day job and become a handicapper.
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NJW7
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-07
05:21 pm
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@mkls531--"if you do not believe refs and players are also laying money on games you are crazy" Well, I guess I'd have to be considered crazy then. Obviously that has happened in sports history, but you make it sound prevalent. I think there are so many safeguards in place, and the policing is so astute by each sports organization, that what you're implying (intentionally or not) is rather far-fetched.
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dewdrop
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-10
04:45 am
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Steelers7, I think Octiger anwsered your original question best. I don't think to many people would wager on a game they knew was fixed unless they knew which way the fix was. Seems like it would be just plain dumb.
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uuuubstrds
Hall-of-Fame
2011-03-10
06:56 am
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players arent the ones, its the coaches . u can play as hard as u want but if a game is bein coached for failure , it will surely fail. u dont notice players bein sat at certain times in a game , or plays bein called that are just stupid , like a run on 3rd n 14, but they say , oh, i thot we'd catch em off gaurd BS. yet we still bet for the luv of sport n competition and the hope that we'll get something for a little something (greed)
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